zyxwvutsr: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Remarkable coincidence, don't you think, that an anonymous tip came in about an NRA instructor who just happened to have an attorney who specializes in Second Amendment rights on speed dial. Probably...
View ArticleT Slothrop: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
I've been following this story extensively on the gun blogs and forums where it first broke. Actually I (and a lot of other even very pro-gun people) agree with your assessment that it was likely a...
View Articleport1080: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Agree completely. I shot my first gun when I was six or seven, probably? Heck, cub scouts still has a shooting badge, doesn't it? This shit is completely whacky.
View Articleindecentspeech: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Setups usually involve misdirection. It wouldn't be surprising if the phone call to DCS involved something else entirely.
View Articlezyxwvutsr: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
...the NJ DCS took the bait...Well, sure, if by "took the bait" you mean that a state agency that is charged with investigating allegations of the abuse of children actually, you know, did its job....
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Sending four cops to try to intimidate the guy into opening his safe even though they had no search warrant is a lawful act in NJ? The DCS caseworker refusing to show her ID, refusing to even state her...
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Also, how is photographing a child holding a firearm "abuse"? The only allegation made was a report of the facebook post to DCS. What cause did the investigator have to go to the man's home at all?
View Articlezyxwvutsr: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Sending four cops to try to intimidate the guy into opening his safe even though they had no search warrant is a lawful act in NJ?So it would seem. What would make it illegal? ...refusing to show her...
View Articlezyxwvutsr: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
how is photographing a child holding a firearm "abuse"?It's not. Obviously. What cause did the investigator have to go to the man's home at all?According to the article, "an anonymous call
View ArticleT Slothrop: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
This story provides the details left out of p0157's original link.
View ArticleT Slothrop: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
The anonymous caller directed DCS to check out the photo on facebook. It is my understanding that no other allegations were made.
View Articleindecentspeech: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Taking the story on it's face (which I highly doubt is the truth): Sending four cops to try to intimidate the guy into opening his safe even though they had no search warrant is a lawful act in NJ?...
View Articleport1080: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Well what do you expect when you photograph your kid holding what's obviously an illegal automatic assault weapon ?!?!?
View Articleindecentspeech: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
This is all the guy's side of the story from a forum post and then extrapolated by the esteemed journalists at THEBLAZE.com. I haven't seen any other media source take it up. None of it is corroborated...
View Articleindecentspeech: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
If you photographed your kid holding a beer, a lit cigarette, and a copy of Hustler magazine (I know, there's no print anymore) in his hands and posted it on Facebook, should that warrant an...
View Articleport1080: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Generally speaking, it's illegal to expose children to pornography (although it's not illegal for them to look at it...yay ambiguous laws). Ditto cigarettes - it's not illegal for kids to smoke, but...
View Articleindecentspeech: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
And the hilarious part is that none of those things would lead to the direct death of another human being. There's a good starting age for you? What's the youngest you'd go with introducing guns to a...
View Articleport1080: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
Cigarettes directly cause cancer. As for kids and guns, I'd say seven or eight, supervised. Unsupervised, probably not until they're 14 or so. Roughly the same ages I'd trust them to use a...
View Articleport1080: Re: p0157 Out of Control!
And just to follow up - I'm pretty sure every male person in my immediately family, branching out to all my cousins, uncles, etc. fired a guy by the time he was 10. Not a single one of us has every...
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